{"id":59,"date":"2010-07-28T08:30:03","date_gmt":"2010-07-28T16:30:03","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/?p=59"},"modified":"2023-08-12T14:19:40","modified_gmt":"2023-08-12T22:19:40","slug":"dr-ogilvey-and-the-creationists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/2010\/07\/28\/dr-ogilvey-and-the-creationists\/","title":{"rendered":"Dr. Ogilvey and the Creationists"},"content":{"rendered":"<p>Things have been quiet for a while here at the Daniels\u2019 ranch in the heart of dinosaur country: no reports of T rexes lunching on hikers in Yellowstone Park, no pachyrhinosaur stampedes. Dr. David Ogilvey\u2019s characteristic high-pitched laughter has been absent, too. He\u2019s been in New York City, defending the local fauna from attacks of an unexpected nature: an anti-dinosaur campaign by creationists. Now, I\u2019m personally neutral on the subject but many on both sides get rather worked up over it, so let me tell you what\u2019s been going on.<\/p>\n<p>Professor Edmond Lazarus of the Yorktown Divinity College several weeks ago challenged Dr. Ogilvey to a debate entitled, \u201cAre The Kra Satan\u2019s Demonic Legions?\u201d Dr. O accepted the challenge and the debate was held in a crowded, boisterous hall on the Divinity College\u2019s Upper East Side campus.<\/p>\n<p>Prof. L made his case that the Kra, human-sized dinosaurs returned to Earth after an eon in space, are by their very existence a refutation of the account of creation in the Bible. Worse, the most conciliatory individual among the Kra, their leader Gar himself, was characterized by Professor L as a likely candidate for the Antichrist. This because according to Professor L, Gar leads unwary people astray with his protestations of friendship for humanity.<\/p>\n<p>When Dr. Ogilvey\u2019s turn came to speak, he countered that a 65-million-year-old civilization does nothing to refute the Bible, if (and here\u2019s the big IF) the six days of creation are reconciled by assuming each of God\u2019s days is 750-million years long. Then Dr. O presented a slide, reproduced below, explaining how all the geological eras since the Earth formed can be matched to a day of God\u2019s work.<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/DrOgilveysCreation1.jpg\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"aligncenter size-full wp-image-63\" title=\"DrOgilveysCreation\" src=\"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/DrOgilveysCreation1.jpg\" alt=\"Dr O's Creation Timeline\" width=\"653\" height=\"576\" srcset=\"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/DrOgilveysCreation1.jpg 653w, http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-content\/uploads\/2010\/07\/DrOgilveysCreation1-300x264.jpg 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 653px) 100vw, 653px\" \/><\/a><\/p>\n<p>Even the biblical references to the creation of various plants and animals fall neatly into place on one of six 750-million-year long days, as Dr. O was glad to elaborate for the crowd. They, however, being overwhelmingly of the creationist persuasion, greeted his words with catcalls and chants of \u201cSatan\u2019s spawn! Satan\u2019s spawn!\u201d<\/p>\n<p>In his final remarks, Professor L accused Dr. O of simply dreaming up a likely scheme with the intent of helping Gar mislead a gullible public. In that light, Professor L concluded that perhaps Dr. Ogilvey was the real Antichrist.<\/p>\n<p>Dr. O then concluded that perhaps Professor L was a monkey\u2019s uncle.<\/p>\n<p>What I find most distressing is Dr. Ogilvey\u2019s seventh day, which has just begun and still has almost all of its 750 million years to run. Dr. O\u2019s assertion that this is God\u2019s day of rest is far from comforting. In a time when we could certainly use divine intervention on an almost daily basis, it\u2019s challenging to imagine God dozing and not really paying attention to what we\u2019re up to for the next 749.994 million years! I guess that means we had better get our act together and try to get along with each other on this planet without much intervention from God for quite a little while.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Challenged to a debate on creationism vs the scientific origins of life on Earth, Dr Ogilvey presented his concept of the 750-million-year God Day. While it has its appeal to moderate thinkers, the creationist followers of Professor Lazarus would have none of it. The definitive answer will be in when God finishes the remaining 749,994,000 years of his day of rest, according to Dr. O. <a href=\"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/2010\/07\/28\/dr-ogilvey-and-the-creationists\/\">Continue reading <span class=\"meta-nav\">&rarr;<\/span><\/a><\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":0,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"footnotes":""},"categories":[9],"tags":[24,259,21,9,22,23,260,258,257],"class_list":["post-59","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","hentry","category-dinosaur-country","tag-bible","tag-creation","tag-creationism","tag-dinosaur-country","tag-dinosaurs","tag-evolution","tag-genesis","tag-god","tag-six-days"],"_links":{"self":[{"href":"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/59","targetHints":{"allow":["GET"]}}],"collection":[{"href":"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts"}],"about":[{"href":"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/types\/post"}],"author":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/users\/1"}],"replies":[{"embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/comments?post=59"}],"version-history":[{"count":6,"href":"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/59\/revisions"}],"predecessor-version":[{"id":3012,"href":"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/posts\/59\/revisions\/3012"}],"wp:attachment":[{"href":"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/media?parent=59"}],"wp:term":[{"taxonomy":"category","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/categories?post=59"},{"taxonomy":"post_tag","embeddable":true,"href":"http:\/\/thomas-hopp.com\/blog\/wp-json\/wp\/v2\/tags?post=59"}],"curies":[{"name":"wp","href":"https:\/\/api.w.org\/{rel}","templated":true}]}}